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Nov '22
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Still can't get over this fucking movie. Just watched it again for the 30th or so time the other night and it only gets funnier to me. Alan is a truly amazing character which honestly seems as if it was meant only to confuse. Clearly targeted towards those with a specific type of sense of humor who might not mind an absolute shit show replacing the "real" sequel we all originally expected.

Pathetic, dim-witted, fat boy with a tiny nose just wants to fit in with the normal kids, which is never going to happen. Before we can feel sorry for him, Alan turns around and acts like a dick to the smaller kids as that seems to be the only thing that makes him feel better about himself. But then when given the least amount of shit for this by a counselor, he freaks out and starts yelling and screaming, and dropping F-bombs. Yelling shit like "Not as stupid as you, YA BIG PENIS!!!!!". How quick he is to use unnecessarily harsh language might be my favorite thing about him. A comically inconsistent character. At times, it seems he's been pushed to his limit by someone fucking with him, but then does or says something that makes it seem as if he's having fun with it all. For a long time, it's unclear when he's truly bothered by something or is just fucking with everyone. Maybe he's just a piece of shit with no attention span. One of the strangest performances I've ever seen. This young actor obviously knew what he looked and came off like and was comfortable enough with it to make an absolute joke out of himself to the point of making us forget that our purpose for watching had nothing to do with him. It's unfortunate he's so misunderstood and unwanted by the audience. The movie in general is overlooked as fuck, not to say it's not overflowing with problems that aren't even Alan-related. This really should be remembered as one of the all time great turkeys by now, but I'm not sure it's even remembered to begin with.

This one sure did need some commentary on that dvd to give us a little insight as to what Robert Hilzik was thinking/smoking. He just kinda randomly dumped this one on us one day and quickly went back to whatever he has doing. And with no heads up, everybody just took it the wrong way, drying up plans of a Sleepaway Camp Reunion (2010), which once had an IMDb page. I'd love to know how they got from whatever Hilzik originally had planned to THIS. No way THIS was always his plan. He probably should have taken a different route with Felissa Rose, but the Alan thing was gold, as pointless as it all really ended up being. Kinda surprised this hasn't ended up on Tubi or something by now. Surely Sleepaway Camp's one and only "real sequel" will eventually get itself a fanbase.


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Nov '22
I barely recall this seeing it once probably around 2010? We'll never see films/sequels released like this today... they're seen as way too problematic.


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Tromafreak says:
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Nov '22 *
That's what I love about Alan. He triggers all the pussy motherfuckers.


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Yakko says:
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Nov '22
I found this movie quite by accident, in a grocery store checkout aisle. The original Sleepaway Camp being one of my favorite 80s slasher films, and having hated the other two so-called sequels, I had to check it out. It had the original director and several original cast members, so my hopes were naturally pretty high.

I didn't hate it. Some things about it are actually quite good. Alan was pretty annoying. He gets bullied, but it's hard to feel sorry for him because he's quite the bully himself. But once it all played out I understood he was a gigantic red herring. The kills were pretty creative and gruesome, just like in the original. The first one was an obvious homage to first kill in the original (the pedophile getting dowsed in boiling water). After this first one I was afraid the rest might be just copies of the others in the original, but they weren't. They were pretty original in themselves. The human firebomb one and the castration one stood out. And like in the original, the body count is pretty high. Also like the original, you don't feel sorry for many of these people when they die because they've done some pretty awful things. The whole frog thing was especially disturbing. There was some comedy like in the original too. The black girl was especially pretty funny. All in all I'd say it's a fairly decent film, and not deserving of the amount of hate I later learned that it gets.

An interesting sidenote is the main girl (I've forgotten the name of the actress now) is the one who played Detective Stabler's wife in Law and Order SVU.

I'd buy a Blu-ray of this if it ever comes out.


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Box_a_Hair says:
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Nov '22
I don't understand why a movie this great killed the franchise. 2 & 3 were a lot of fun, but they could've been their own series and it wouldn't matter. Pamela Springsteen's version no longer had a trans-complex. She was simply nuts. Return oozed the same vibes and dramatic music cues as the first movie. It's exactly what it needed to be. I guess a follow-up wasn't necessary when ending on such a high note like this.

I would like to point out that Ricky was a decent actor in the first movie, but his performance in Return was so exaggerated. Notice how often he moves his arms around to emphasize his angst?



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